The following thread appeared in btinternet.whinge during May 1999, by which time the BT Internet news server - which does not include any antivirus filters - had provided its more gullible customers with plenty of chances to infect their PCs with the "worm" Happy99.exe. (Happy99.exe sends a copy of itself alongside every one of a victim's e-mails and newsgroup articles.)
From Letnet Sat May 01 19:26:03 1999 attention to ALL readers when checking uk.legal news group i have noticed a reply from Spencer family regarding solicitor's negligent advice, their is a detachment which I strongly advise not to open which is happy 99 exe it is a Virus
From cjb (Chris Buckley)Sat May 01 23:15:16 1999 Letnet writes... attention to ALL readers when checking uk.legal news group i have noticed a reply from Spencer family regarding solicitor's negligent advice, their is a detachment which I strongly advise not to open which is happy 99 exe Completely irrelevant to this ng. it is a Virus False. It's a worm. -- Regards, Chris Buckley
From peter ramm Sun May 02 05:37:58 1999 On Sat, 1 May 1999 23:15:16 +0100, cjb (Chris Buckley) wrote a less than helpful response which was up to his usual low standard: I wouldn't go upsetting the people in uk.legal if I was you - particularly with the problems you're experiencing elsewhere. -- Return has anti-spam - Pete Ramm
From cjb Sun May 02 14:20:40 1999 Peter Ramm writes... I wouldn't go upsetting the people in uk.legal if I was you - How would I be "upsetting" them? I am reading this post in btinternet.whinge. Therefore the original post was completely irrelevant to this ng - period. particularly with the problems you're experiencing elsewhere. Like Mr. Kettle posting into an announce ng and you lot thinking that this is breaking the law? Oh please!
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From bill eaves Sun May 02 21:40:04 1999 "Peter Ramm" wrote: I wouldn't go upsetting the people in uk.legal if I was you - particularly with the problems you're experiencing elsewhere. And why not. They are probably just as computer illiterate as most of the IBM PC users that whinge on this list. Probably bought all their kit at Dixons as well !
Bill.
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From Letnet Sun May 02 09:31:15 1999 some time a go this virus happy 99 exe subject, was pointed out by BT Internet support and it is not a worm? Chris Buckley wrote... Letnet writes... attention to ALL readers when checking uk.legal news group i have noticed a reply from Spencer family regarding solicitor's negligent advice, their is a detachment which I strongly advise not to open which is happy 99 exe Completely irrelevant to this ng. it is a Virus False. It's a worm. -- Regards, Chris Buckley
From cjb Sun May 02 14:20:39 1999 Letnet writes... some time a go this virus happy 99 exe subject, was pointed out by BT Internet support and it is not a worm? BTI Support, (like nearly everytime) are wrong. Happy99.exe is a worm. A virus has a payload - a worm does not.
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From ronfitz Sun May 02 19:09:48 1999 on Sun, 2 May 1999 14:20:39 +0100, cjb wrote: Letnet writes... some time a go this virus happy 99 exe subject, was pointed out by BT Internet support and it is not a worm? BTI Support, (like nearly everytime) are wrong. Happy99.exe is a worm. A virus has a payload - a worm does not. Chris, we had this argument weeks ago. The best compromise that can be had is to say the happy99 virus is of the type classified worm. Virus is the top level descriptor, you can branch out into different types after that but in my view the description "virus" is entirely accurate on its own. PS. You didn't stay a "good boy" for long but it was nice while it lasted.
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From henlow Sun May 02 09:35:47 1999
Chris Buckley wrote
it is a Virus False. It's a worm. Isn't it funny how at a certain age one seems to know everything about everything on just about any subject that seems to get mentioned. And then, as one gets older, one realises that one actually knows so little and one wonders what a complete tosser one must have looked to those one was trying desperately to impress. Sorry about all those ones but I wouldn't want to appear to be making this remark personal to any particular poster. Just a thought AndyP
From cjb Sun May 02 14:20:38 1999 AndyP writes... Isn't it funny how at a certain age one seems to know everything about everything on just about any subject that seems to get mentioned. And then, as one gets older, one realises that one actually knows so little and one wonders what a complete tosser one must have looked to those one was trying desperately to impress. Sorry about all those ones but I wouldn't want to appear to be making this remark personal to any particular poster. Are you saying that happy99.exe is a virus when it is clearly a worm?
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From Letnet
to andy and chris,
From Kesimmonds Sun May 02 16:02:16 1999
Dear Letnet,
Personally, I suspect that he's a ex - ISP help desk operator, as he obviously can't stop reading and contributing to newsgroups, even ones which he shouldn't be reading. Thank you for trying to help anyway, and don't let the b*****d grind you down.
Keith
From bill eaves Sun May 02 22:14:14 1999 "Keith Simmonds" wrote: Personally, I suspect that he's a ex - ISP help desk operator, He wasn't. I would know I was there :-( No CB just knows that if you sub to LineOne that is the same as accessing BTI. I was an ex helpdesk guy though and quite glad I am out of it ;o) The crack on the newsgroups was great, the staff at working level are great. The management and employment agency left to much to be desired and I would not recommend anyone getting a 'job' at BTI support. BTW Do not be too hard on George, Iain or Andrew, they are great blokes who have to answer this NG and do all the best they can and were good guys to work with. So if the answer seems familiar to the last one don't blame them, they have to work within their limits. Bill. -- Email address has anti-spam, please remove *noreply* to reply ;-) No Micro$oft applications used nor needed in posting this message :o)
From cjb Mon May 03 00:13:22 1999 Bill writes... BTW Do not be too hard on George, Iain or Andrew, they are great blokes who have to answer this NG and do all the best they can and were good guys to work with. So if the answer seems familiar to the last one don't blame them, they have to work within their limits. I felt I had to comment on this, Bill. I *do* agree with what you are saying, but what do you mean when you say "work within their limits" ? Are they not allowed to go and research information about IP's, DNS, Mail server's, UNIX and it's variants etc? If they did the above and tried to *help themselves* then they wouldn't be the subject of the abuse they are. However, if it was up to me I would sack the whole support staff who post to these ng's (they are a waste of time imo) and allow the server chaps at BTNet to post. Subscribers in these ng's are knowledgeable and want direct information about the server's *not* some "we are experiencing probs with the mail server tonight" etc etc. If they [BTI] where to allow the server guys to post then customers would actually be put "in the picture", so to speak. I know that Easynet, Pipex, Freeserve/Planet on-line, Demon all do this. They don't have "support" people who pander they just have their server admins who really DO know what they are talking about. Just my opinion anyway :)
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From mpaton Mon May 03 12:25:50 1999 On Mon, 3 May 1999 00:13:22 +0100, cjb(Chris Buckley) wrote: However, if it was up to me I would sack the whole support staff who post to these ng's (they are a waste of time imo) and allow the server chaps at BTNet to post. Subscribers in these ng's are knowledgeable and want direct information about the server's *not* some "we are experiencing probs with the mail server tonight" etc etc. If they [BTI] where to allow the server guys to post then customers would actually be put "in the picture", so to speak. I know that Easynet, Pipex, Freeserve/Planet on-line, Demon all do this. They don't have "support" people who pander they just have their server admins who really DO know what they are talking about. I wouldn't sack them, but I agree 100% with the rest of your suggestion. It would make it so much easier, actually KNOWING what was wrong, rather than having people destroy their setups thinking it was something at their end. Iain, George and co could be trained to provide technical answers to users who require them, and non-technical answers for first time users, etc.. But the sad thing is, they'll probably never do it, and yet it's SO simple!! Martin
From cjb Sun May 02 23:50:29 1999 Keith Simmonds writes... I suspect that he's a ex - ISP help desk operator, as he obviously can't stop reading and contributing to newsgroups, even ones which he shouldn't be reading. ????? But I'm still at school you buffon!!
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From Kesimmonds Mon May 03 08:02:00 1999 A couple of helpful replies in amongst your usual diatribes around the ngs today Chris! Keep it up, people will start to respect your contributions.
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From cjb Mon May 03 16:21:22 1999 Keith Simmonds writes... A couple of helpful replies in amongst your usual diatribes around the ngs today Chris! Keep it up, people will start to respect your contributions. One does one's best :-)
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From henlow Sun May 02 16:09:42 1999
Chris Buckley wrote
Are you saying that happy99.exe is a virus when it is clearly a worm? With respect Chris I am saying nothing about Happy.exe...I was actually referring to your apparently comprehensive knowledge on any subject anyone ever cares to mention AndyP
From john Sun May 02 17:45:29 1999 Question, should you warm the teapot before putting in the tea leaves?? John AndyP wrote... Chris Buckley wrote <snip> Are you saying that happy99.exe is a virus when it is clearly a worm? With respect Chris I am saying nothing about Happy.exe...I was actually referring to your apparently comprehensive knowledge on any subject anyone ever cares to mention AndyP
From jopam May 02 19:16:27 1999 Chris knows, don't you ,Chris. Go on indulge us. Joe Steele. JC wrote ... Question, should you warm the teapot before putting in the tea leaves?? John
From see@replytoheader.com Sun May 02 19:50:03 1999 J&P Steele writes... Chris knows, don't you ,Chris. Go on indulge us. Joe Steele. I have no idea, nor do I care.
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From jopam Mon May 03 19:32:46 1999 No offence meant Chris, just expected you to return with a witty, tongue-in-cheek comment. Except for the times you make hasty, uncalled for comments, which are best ignored, you provide some useful tips/info and amusement. Take care and be good. Joe Steele Chris Buckley wrote... Chris knows, don't you ,Chris. Go on indulge us. Joe Steele. I have no idea, nor do I care.
From cjb Mon May 03 20:40:44 1999 J&P Steele writes... No offence meant Chris, none taken :) just expected you to return with a witty, tongue-in-cheek comment. Isn't "Mr. Kettle" meant for that? :-)) Except for the times you make hasty, uncalled for comments, which are best ignored, you provide some useful tips/info and amusement. Why, thankyou <g> Take care and be good. Likewise :)
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From cjb Sun May 02 21:40:08 1999 AndyP writes... Chris Buckley wrote <snip> Are you saying that happy99.exe is a virus when it is clearly a worm? With respect Chris I am saying nothing about Happy.exe...I was actually referring to your apparently comprehensive knowledge on any subject anyone ever cares to mention That's 'cos I'm a knowledgeable chap ;)
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From peter ramm Sun May 02 18:46:38 1999 On Sun, 2 May 1999 14:20:38 +0100, cjb(Chris Buckley) wrote: AndyP writes... Isn't it funny how at a certain age one seems to know everything about everything on just about any subject that seems to get mentioned. And then, as one gets older, one realises that one actually knows so little and one wonders what a complete tosser one must have looked to those one was trying desperately to impress. Sorry about all those ones but I wouldn't want to appear to be making this remark personal to any particular poster. Are you saying that happy99.exe is a virus when it is clearly a worm? I've no idea how you could read that into the message above to which you responded. I think he was just saying that your a prat.
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From see@replytoheader.com Sun May 02 19:49:42 1999 Peter Ramm writes... On Sun, 2 May 1999 14:20:38 +0100, cjb (Chris Buckley) wrote: AndyP writes... Isn't it funny how at a certain age one seems to know everything about everything on just about any subject that seems to get mentioned. And then, as one gets older, one realises that one actually knows so little and one wonders what a complete tosser one must have looked to those one was trying desperately to impress. Sorry about all those ones but I wouldn't want to appear to be making this remark personal to any particular poster. Are you saying that happy99.exe is a virus when it is clearly a worm? I've no idea how you could read that into the message above to which you responded. You're a bit thick aren't you? He was stating that I "knew everything" etc when really I don't. I took issue with Andy challenging the fact that Happy99.exe is a worm NOT a virus. I think he was just saying that your a prat. "you're"
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From mpaton Sun May 02 22:41:39 1999 On Sun, 2 May 1999 19:49:42 +0100, see@replytoheader.com (Chris Buckley) wrote: "you're" You learn from your mistakes! That has to be commended! :o) Martin
From p.boulding Sun May 02 22:44:11 1999 On Sun, 2 May 1999 19:49:42 +0100, see@replytoheader.com (Chris Buckley) wrote: I think he was just saying that your a prat. "you're" Quite right, Chris. BTW, you must always warm the pot *before* putting in the tea leaves. Otherwise you throw out the tea leaves with the warming water, and end up drinking cups of hot water. ANY FOOL KNOWS THAT.
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From john Sun May 02 22:59:59 1999 Lol...usually drink coffee... When I have tea, I dumk the tea bag in the cup.. Cheers anyway, Peter John Peter Boulding wrote... On Sun, 2 May 1999 19:49:42 +0100, see@replytoheader.com (Chris Buckley) wrote: I think he was just saying that your a prat. "you're" Quite right, Chris. BTW, you must always warm the pot *before* putting in the tea leaves. Otherwise you throw out the tea leaves with the warming water, and end up drinking cups of hot water. ANY FOOL KNOWS THAT. -- Regards Peter Boulding
From kevin.andreoli Mon May 03 09:48:39 1999 On Sun, 2 May 1999 22:59:59 +0100, john said... Lol...usually drink coffee... When I have tea, I dumk the tea bag in the cup.. Cheers anyway, Peter John <snip> Rats! you beat me to it. :-)
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From john Mon May 03 12:51:54 1999 Sorry Kevin... actually I DUNK not DUMK..!!!!! Flaming gloves are on again..!!!! John Kevin Andreoli wrote... On Sun, 2 May 1999 22:59:59 +0100 john said... Lol...usually drink coffee... When I have tea, I dumk the tea bag in the cup.. Cheers anyway, Peter John <snip> Rats! you beat me to it. :-) -- Kev
From Dominic Hyde Mon May 03 13:50:55 1999 So what's wrong with dumking then??? JC wrote... Sorry Kevin... actually I DUNK not DUMK..!!!!! Flaming gloves are on again..!!!! John
From john Mon May 03 14:16:24 1999 Dominic Hyde wrote... So what's wrong with dumking then??? You get tea over everything!!!!! A bit like Jill & her OJ problem....She's better these days, a while ago she used to snort it (a la Robbie Fowler), but it kept dripping over everything... John
From bill eaves Mon May 03 23:40:56 1999 "Peter Boulding" wrote: BTW, you must always warm the pot *before* putting in the tea leaves. Otherwise you throw out the tea leaves with the warming water, and end up drinking cups of hot water. ANY FOOL KNOWS THAT.
For all the stingies like me out there here is a quick tip.
Amazing the money saving tips you needed when working for BT Internet :-P
Denty ;^)
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From p.boulding Tue May 04 01:38:15 1999 On 3 May 1999 22:40:56 GMT, "Bill" wrote: For all the stingies like me out there here is a quick tip. Pour a bit of water from a half boiled kettle into the pot to warm it up. Do not throw the water away but put it back in the kettle and then bring it to the boil. You can then pour fully hot water on the tea leaves in the warmed pot. Then stick any remaining hot water in a flask to go back in the kettle for next time - far quicker than boiling water from cold :o) Amazing the money saving tips you needed when working for BT Internet :-P Omigod. Where's Mo when you need her? ;o)
From mo Tue May 04 07:13:07 1999 You called? Peter Boulding wrote... On 3 May 1999 22:40:56 GMT, "Bill" wrote: For all the stingies like me out there here is a quick tip. Pour a bit of water from a half boiled kettle into the pot to warm it up. Do not throw the water away but put it back in the kettle and then bring it to the boil. You can then pour fully hot water on the tea leaves in the warmed pot. Then stick any remaining hot water in a flask to go back in the kettle for next time - far quicker than boiling water from cold :o) Amazing the money saving tips you needed when working for BT Internet :-P Omigod. Where's Mo when you need her? ;o)
From p.boulding Tue May 04 10:33:38 1999 On Tue, 4 May 1999 07:13:07 +0100, "Mo" wrote: You called? Yes. Quick: we need one of your "off-topic" grumbles, before I find myself explaining - in deadly detail, with cost-benefit calculations based on (amongst other factors) KWh vs. the fixed cost of a tea cosy and flask - why Denty's approach is questionable, especially in a hard water area. Please, Mo. I don't even like tea, and Denty's post reminds me horribly of my ex mother in law.
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From mo Tue May 04 10:40:49 1999
LOL!
Peter Boulding wrote... On Tue, 4 May 1999 07:13:07 +0100, "Mo" wrote: You called? Yes. Quick: we need one of your "off-topic" grumbles, before I find myself explaining - in deadly detail, with cost-benefit calculations based on (amongst other factors) KWh vs. the fixed cost of a tea cosy and flask why Denty's approach is questionable, especially in a hard water area. Please, Mo. I don't even like tea, and Denty's post reminds me horribly of my ex mother in law. -- Regards Peter Boulding
From bobmckenzie Tue May 04 13:43:05 1999 And here's me been buying Yorkshire tea 'cos it's supposed to be good and now it's the *water* that makes the difference! Mo wrote... LOL! Tea's no good without Yorkshire water - and that's not to be relied upon! :-)
From p.boulding Tue May 04 14:40:51 1999 On Tue, 4 May 1999 13:43:05 +0100, "Bob McKenzie" wrote: And here's me been buying Yorkshire tea 'cos it's supposed to be good and now it's the *water* that makes the difference! I have shocking news for you, Bob: tea comes from the far east.
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From bobmckenzie Tue May 04 17:48:57 1999 What, you mean near Bridlington? Peter Boulding wrote... I have shocking news for you, Bob: tea comes from the far east.
From p.boulding Tue May 04 18:46:42 1999 On Tue, 4 May 1999 17:48:57 +0100, "Bob McKenzie" wrote: What, you mean near Bridlington? Stop it! My jaws are aching...
From mo Wed May 05 20:35:42 1999 You can't get more exotic than Brid! ;-) Bob McKenzie wrote... What, you mean near Bridlington? Peter Boulding wrote... I have shocking news for you, Bob: tea comes from the far east.
From bill eaves Wed May 05 20:37:37 1999 "Peter Boulding" wrote: Quick: we need one of your "off-topic" grumbles, before I find myself explaining - in deadly detail, with cost-benefit calculations based on amongst other factors) KWh vs. the fixed cost of a tea cosy and flask - why Denty's approach is questionable, especially in a hard water area. Fortunately the water in Scotland is nice and soft so scaling is not really a problem :-) It also does not taste like bleach, I hate that when I go back down south and the water tastes like a bottle of Domestos :-( Please, Mo. I don't even like tea, and Denty's post reminds me horribly of my ex mother in law. Why does she have a permanent 5 o'clock shadow and are her front teeth missing as well then ? Denty :^) --
From p.boulding Thu May 06 01:46:35 1999 On 5 May 1999 19:37:37 GMT, "Bill" wrote: Fortunately the water in Scotland is nice and soft so scaling is not really a problem :-) It also does not taste like bleach, I hate that when I go back down south and the water tastes like a bottle of Domestos :-( It has to. Next time you drink a glass of water in London, bear in mind that it has already passed through an average of 3.5 gullets, 3.5 stomachs, 3.5 small intestines, 3.5 large intestines, 3.5 bladders, 1.75 *****s, 1.75 ****s, 2.5 S traps, 0.75 P traps, 0.247 bottle traps and 3.5 sewers.
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From mo Thu May 06 09:00:44 1999 Peter Boulding wrote It has to. Next time you drink a glass of water in London, bear in mind that it has already passed through an average of 3.5 gullets, 3.5 stomachs, 3.5 small intestines, 3.5 large intestines, 3.5 bladders, 1.75 *****s, 1.75 ****s, 2.5 S traps, 0.75 P traps, 0.247 bottle traps and 3.5 sewers. No wonder the beer's bloody awful then! :-) Mo
From stephanos Thu May 06 10:51:16 1999 Thats why I bought a Britta (!) Peter Boulding wrote It has to. Next time you drink a glass of water in London, bear in mind that it has already passed through an average of 3.5 gullets, 3.5 stomachs, 3.5 small intestines, 3.5 large intestines, 3.5 bladders, 1.75 *****s, 1.75 ****s, 2.5 S traps, 0.75 P traps, 0.247 bottle traps and 3.5 sewers.
From Dominic Hyde Thu May 06 10:50:59 1999 Ditto and it makes all the difference:-) Steph Gosling wrote ... Thats why I bought a Britta (!)
From Kesimmonds Thu May 06 10:55:02 1999 Oh, all right ..... Peter Boulding wrote in message It has to. Next time you drink a glass of water in London, bear in mind that it has already passed through an average of 3.5 gullets, 3.5 stomachs, 3.5 small intestines, 3.5 large intestines, 3.5 bladders, 1.75 *****s, 1.75 ****s, 2.5 S traps, 0.75 P traps, 0.247 bottle traps and 3.5 sewers Thats why I bought a Britta (!)
AND ONE BRITTA FILTER !!!
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From stephanos Thu May 06 12:15:03 1999 No wonder the water doesn't taste that different, and it still has all that deritus in too.... You've being brewing for ages-aren't you done yet? Keith Simmonds wrote: AND ONE BRITTA FILTER !!! :^)
From Kesimmonds Thu May 06 16:41:34 1999 Steph wrote You've being brewing for ages-aren't you done yet? 'Course not ... different days, different beers!
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From bill.eaves Thu May 06 22:45:21 1999 "Mo" wrote: No wonder the beer's bloody awful then! :-) You should taste the chemically produced stuff we get up in Thurso :-( Real Ale is available in only one of the pubs but elsewhere the beer up here is dire, that is one area you are much better off down south :-)
Bill ;^)
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From mo Fri May 07 06:24:15 1999 Bill. wrote ... You should taste the chemically produced stuff we get up in Thurso :-( Real Ale is available in only one of the pubs but elsewhere the beer up here is dire, that is one area you are much better off down south :-) Not too far south though! ;-)
From Dominic Hyde Thu May 06 10:50:12 1999 Yep and it tastes like it too... Peter Boulding wrote... On 5 May 1999 19:37:37 GMT, "Bill." wrote: Fortunately the water in Scotland is nice and soft so scaling is not really a problem :-) It also does not taste like bleach, I hate that when I go back down south and the water tastes like a bottle of Domestos :-( It has to. Next time you drink a glass of water in London, bear in mind that it has already passed through an average of 3.5 gullets, 3.5 stomachs, 3.5 small intestines, 3.5 large intestines, 3.5 bladders, 1.75 *****s, 1.75 ****s, 2.5 S traps, 0.75 P traps, 0.247 bottle traps and 3.5 sewers.
From bill eaves Thu May 06 22:50:33 1999 "Peter Boulding" wrote: Next time you drink a glass of water in London, bear in mind that it has already passed through... That is civilisation for you :-( The trick is pour the glass of water and leave it for a while and then the chlorine gradually evaporates. It still takes a while to remember though when you are normally used to drinking water immediately after pouring it. Bill. -- Email address has anti-spam, please remove *noreply* to reply ;-) No Micro$oft applications used nor needed in posting this message :o)
From p.boulding Thu May 06 23:13:55 1999 On 6 May 1999 21:50:33 GMT, "Bill" wrote: The trick is pour the glass of water and leave it for a while and then the chlorine gradually evaporates. Unfortunately the stuff it was there to kill doesn't. Nor does the synthetic oestrogen which is the cause of your plummeting sperm count.
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From Jan Witkowski Fri May 07 06:51:03 1999 And to grow big breasts. :-) Peter Boulding wrote... Unfortunately the stuff it was there to kill doesn't. Nor does the synthetic oestrogen which is the cause of your plummeting sperm count.
From bill eaves Sun May 02 21:52:57 1999 Hi Chris, "Chris Buckley" wrote: Completely irrelevant to this ng. Yup. it is a Virus False. It's a worm.
True, and as it only affects PCs running Windoze who really cares :o)
I am perfectly safe from it . Bill. aka Denty ;^) -- Email address has anti-spam, please remove *noreply* to reply ;-) No Micro$oft applications used nor needed in posting this message :o)
From support Mon May 03 14:38:25 1999
Hello Letnet
Regards
George
Letnet wrote... attention to ALL readers when checking uk.legal news group i have noticed a reply from Spencer family regarding solicitor's negligent advice, their is a detachment which I strongly advise not to open which is happy 99 exe it is a Virus
From cjb Mon May 03 16:20:30 1999 BT Internet Support writes... This virus/worm has been a major cause for concern for our customers. Then do what Planet on-line did and FILTER IT FROM YOUR SERVERS!! The UNIX command, I am told, to do this is pretty simple.
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